Crion has connected.
tom has connected.
cbass has connected.
brennon has connected.
VoidTek has connected.
elfDM:
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ok so dwho is away due to family stuff
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Serge:
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yep
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elfDM:
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so we can do heaps and ehaps but we
have a few things we can do
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elfDM:
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including this talk
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elfDM:
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also nice new token for serge
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Serge:
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thank, the last one was always a
temporary
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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yah
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Arran:
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okay
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Arran:
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dwhomst
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Serge:
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void...
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Edward:
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:I
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Edward:
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elfDM:
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sec il check on steam
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Krakken:
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orks were drowning out the maptool
ping but i. am here. now.
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elfDM:
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and remember folks, everyone gets a
say here. there are no wrong ways to resolve this storywise, but
also keep in mind, thr practical issues involved are real, and
can't just be burushed aside
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The lesser creatures that cower beneath our shadows, they know us
by many names.
They know that we are kin, but they know also that we vary greatly.
They know that if they are to even glimpse us, everything about
their brief pitiful lives will change.
Usually by becoming even shorter.
All of our kind are destructive. But we vary in the focus and form
of our wrath.
Elemental power, tactical doctrine. .. . asthetic nuance.
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Edward:
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glad to see nigirte managed to survive
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Edward:
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sorry, Nagirte
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The Reds are the Obliterators. They can melt a fortress, overpower
wards, incinerate anything and everything
The Blue are the Thunderbolts. They drop from the sky and shatter
they they fall upon, with lightning, ferocity, and elite troops.
We are called the Deathbringers.
We cannot disssolve a fortress, but we need not- when we breathe,
everything within it dies.
We cannot shatter entire armies, but who would face us knowing
what fate shall befall them?
We cannot lead as well as the Blues or Scheme as well as the
greens, but who would ever dare betray us?
But then you come along. And death is no longer enough. A better
breed of killers. Tiny a sharp like the tips of talons.
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Speaker:
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gone, gone, choice or say; left,
the devil, Nagirte
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So my brothers fall. Death comes to the bringers of death.
Fortunatly, we are not all defined by the pigment of our scales.
I can bring death if I must. But I offer something else. .
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Inix'Inara:
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"I bring life."
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"I do not."
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Inix'Inara:
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Inix'Inara lounges on her golden
perch. "I know. You're top of the food chain, now. But what shall
you do when there is nothing left to eat?"
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Inix'Inara:
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"You can't slay a famine, little
raptor."
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Serge:
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"It is, I will admit, a compelling
argument." Serge, having discarded the sniveling mien of
Milleflore, regards the great dragon properly.
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"Have you tried?"
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Arran:
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"Well there are a lot of things we
could do that do not involve slaying. A Miracle, if necessary."
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Edward:
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The Regent rubs his chin in silence
while the others make their cases.
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Inix'Inara:
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"I have come closer to slaying hunger
than any creature I am aware of. I have turned my gifts to the
propogation of life- the fragile kind you yourselves champion."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Miracles are expensive, Priest. Your
New God is generous, but mine knows that there is a price to
everything. . her generosity is miraculous, because of that."
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Arran:
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"Tiamat lacks the vision to truly
exercise the power she has; instead she squanders it on petty
exercises of domination and false magnanimity."
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Edward:
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Finally, he speaks: "You were the only
one to take our offer seriously, and for that alone I think you
deserve a reprieve. But..."
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Edward:
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He turns to the draconian among them.
"Opinions differ."
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Krakken:
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"We have. Seen the life
you bring. Hhrn. If they were here. Now. I wonder if they would.
Thank you." he flexes his talons, then slowly clenches them as he
tilts his head to the side. "But I realize I do not. Care. Much."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Indeed? You stand here, and you still
you do not understand. There would be no life here without the
Queen. Or worse, no life not in chains of Hellmetal."
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Arran:
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"But sate my curiosity for a moment: I
will take for granted for the sake of this discussion that you are
a necessary part of the chain of life here. Why is that? Is the
flow of life in this place simply incomplete, is there something
about the fundamental character of this world that will not hold
life?"
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Arran:
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"Or say I were to simply bring a
greenhouse here, would things grow in my carefully curated
environment? What if I brought a druid or some Melorans?"
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Arran:
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In a slightly quieter voice, like he's
making a joke to his fellows: "Although I'd prefer the latter.
Hah."
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Serge:
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"Hold a moment, Arran. Nothing here
comes without some kind of price."
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Inix'Inara:
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"You care not, Hound? Even with the
Power of the heart that beats within you?"
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Serge:
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"And you're offering us a relative
bargain, so it would seem. If we retain your services, and life in
this city goes on. But... what's in it for you? What do you get
out of keeping this city going, in the service of we who would
defy your Queen?"
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Serge:
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"And... what price the Priest's
answers?"
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elfDM:
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ill get to arran and serge but i wanna
ehar from void before i do
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Krakken:
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"You are asking it questions.
Entertaining it's bargains. As if it would. Tell you truth."
he bares his teeth and slashes the air with one hand, taking a
step forward defiantly. "You have seen all that their
kind will. Offer. And no, worm. What have I left. Here? To care
about? This power? Hrrn. It will burn me. But not before it burns
you and. Yours."
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Inix'Inara:
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"The power within you has Burnt my
kind since the dawn of time. After all, the powr within you us
Ours."
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Inix'Inara:
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"The power within you has Burnt my
kind since the dawn of time. After all, the powr within you is
Ours."
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Arran:
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Lies have a hard time finding stable
ground around Arran, or at least he continually says as much.
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Krakken:
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He points toward the devil at the
dragon's side. "And as if they were not enough. Those
schemers. Hrrn. Always just behind them."
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Inix'Inara:
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"And we both know that your fragile
vessle shall shatter long before you can hurl enough hate at our
Race to extinguish it."
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Edward:
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"This is something I have been
contemplating for quite some time."
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Inix'Inara:
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"So what is your purpose, Hound? What
do you want? Before you are spent?"
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Edward:
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"Are there some peoples who are simply
born into evil, such that all of their race are poisoned with it?"
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"Some? No."
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"All."
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Arran:
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"Both Doctrine and my personal
experience would point to no- dragons are all burdened with
unsightly Pride due to their long life and natural levels of
strength, but there are... tales, at least, of those who have
risen above such to demonstrate themselves as noble souls."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Indeed Priest. One such creature may
even stand before you. Or beside you."
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Serge:
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Heh.
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Arran:
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Arran nods. "Indeed, but that does
remain to be seen."
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Krakken:
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"What I want? Hrrn. The
truth I offer has never. Changed. Everything that I. Am.
That I have." he thumps his chest, where the fiery core of his
heart blazes green at the center of his harness. " I will burn to
ash. If it means taking you and your. Gods with me."
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Arran:
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"Redemption is always there for those
who would seek it, just as the fires of justice are there for
those who would not. As it always has been, as it always shall be."
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Edward:
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"Then I feel that we cannot dismiss
Inix'Inara's plea without an inquisition of some sort to
investigate the matter, even an informal one."
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Krakken:
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"I feel. Otherwise."
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Edward:
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"Certainly this creature deserves the
same dispensation I was afforded."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Everything you have. . . you were
Given, by a creature not unlike myself. In fact uneless I miss my
guess, there is something of each of our kin within you- within
the heart you foollishly think of as you own."
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"I stand amenable to mortal justice.
If it fails, I will be there to deliver Heaven's."
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Serge:
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(brb sec)
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Krakken:
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"Given. Stolen. Hrrn. They will regret
it. Either way."
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Edward:
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Edward shifts in his armor, clearly
uncomfortable. "There is another point worth making."
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Inix'Inara:
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"So, there we have it. The Krakken
wants to wage war on the Gods. On my Goddess. On Edward's Goddess."
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Edward:
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"If we are to slay Inix'Inara- just as
we would any of the servants of Tia-Mammon.."
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Edward:
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"If we were to do so, if we were to
hunt the wyrm-queen to the ends of creation.."
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Edward:
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"And slaughter them, what would be
left?"
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Krakken:
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"Us."
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Inix'Inara:
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"The Seven, would be left."
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Edward:
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"Would the world suffer for this loss?
Even a little?"
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Inix'Inara:
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"The Sky Tyrants. The Masters of the
Realm who's armis even now swarm againt your homelands."
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Edward:
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"We would be destroying an entire
people, more or less."
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Arran:
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"Hmph. You overrate your importance if
you think your presence is the true stopping block for the greater
machinations of the heavens."
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Krakken:
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"They have already destroyed those
people! A slow death is. Still death all the same!"
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Arran:
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"Yes, Edward. Even if we think they
are evil we ought to give the ones willing to change their ways at
least a guarded chance at changing their spirit. A genuine
attempt."
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Inix'Inara:
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"I assure you they were dying far more
swiftly before we took them under our wing."
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Arran:
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"They can make amends for their crimes
if their convictions are sincere, in fact they would do so without
encouragement if they truly have changed heart."
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Speaker:
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i'm from prowmeet and i say kill
'em all
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Serge:
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"If we cannot come to terms… cannot
find a solution—then we must find some way to make a haven for the
Veroon. Those we can save."
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Serge:
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An unpleasant thought bubbles up. Weren't
you the one who stood in front of an army and told an entire
people to get on ships and sail into the unknown?
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Krakken:
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"All any of you have to do is step.
Outside this room. You will see. For yourselves. What their gift
is. Their sincerity. Our entire history lies broken.
And crumbling beneath our feet."
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Arran:
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"Okay, and you want to kill this one
for that, right?"
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"I want to kill this one because it
seems difficult."
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Arran:
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Arran waves a hand. "Bad reason,
please."
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Serge:
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"Dammit, this is why this place is
Hell. It's going to set all of us against each other—"
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Krakken:
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"Not this one. All of them."
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Arran:
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"Serge, I view this as an educational
moment on the dangers of perpetuating violence when another option
is present."
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Arran:
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"If we scour them from all creation we
have not gained as much as redeeming the few we can and purging
those that cling to wickedness. We have not made the world as good
as we could have."
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Arran:
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"This is the sort of vision I said
that Tiamat lacks. You should be careful making the same mistake."
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Serge:
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"You can stand there and say
that—She's right about pride."
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Krakken:
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"And how do you. Know that? Hrrn? In
the face of all you have seen? Of the entire history of
this world?"
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Inix'Inara:
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"You speak of a history you do not
understand. Which takes us back to the Priests initial query."
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Edward:
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"What if the future could be
different," remarks Edward.
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Krakken:
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"I know a way it could."
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Inix'Inara:
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"For you mock my Godess for doing the
very thing you claim to do. Preserving what can be preserved.
Redeeming what can be redeemed."
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"Sophistry."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Substance. Look around you. There is
a city where there should be None."
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"This is true of all places with
cities."
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Arran:
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"You should get a Meloran and Erathian
together and say that."
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"I have."
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Arran:
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"A being of your stature wouldn't bear
such a base misunderstanding of Tiamat, so I'll pin your defense
of her on Pride, your weightiest sin. It is clearly evident
that there was no redeeming in her mind, and the things she has
sought to preserve are the things that serve her whims, her
desires."
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Arran:
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"Like really? You're too used to
dealing with the humans you have beaten down and abused, it seems."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Indeed? And how do her whims differ
from your ethics?"
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Inix'Inara:
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"She has created this city. What have
you done?"
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Arran:
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"I'm not here to answer your
questions, lest you forget why we came."
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Arran:
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"Haha, oh- well, one thing I have done
is what we're talking about right now."
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Arran:
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"How about that?"
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"Conquered it."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Indeed? Was it you who Redeemed the
Black Regent? Oh no, it was you who sniped from the sidelines."
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Edward:
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Edward smirks at that.
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Inix'Inara:
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"It was She who supported Stormpoint
these many years."
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Arran:
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"Am I supposed to be hurt by that?"
Arran touches a hand to his chest. "Attacking hubris would be the
weapon of one steeped in it I suppose."
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Inix'Inara:
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"You speak of Redemption but you do
not see Her Role in it."
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Edward:
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"Her aid has been essential, but it
has come with a cost that we now find intolerable."
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Edward:
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"So we seek to re-define."
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Arran:
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"That she has a role does not mean it
is a good or necessary one, regardless of what order you think you
have created in this blasted place."
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Inix'Inara:
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"You seek to Reinvent. To revise. You
call me a Sophist. You accuse me of Pride!"
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Arran:
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"I am above accusations. Pride swells
in your heart with every defiant act you can bring against us,
even in this very conversation!"
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Arran:
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"Examine yourself!"
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Krakken:
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"Then let her make her
case. When we stand. Before her."
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Serge:
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If there was ever a hope of mutual
negotiation to be worked out here, it's been shot through to hell.
No pun intended.
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Inix'Inara:
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"You use your Conquest as proof of
righteousness? You accuse me of pride, as you imperiously Rise
Above these Earthyl concerns?""
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"I accuse you of nothing but loudness."
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You whisper to cbass: is it
beyond hope? or could serge work out a deal. . .. ?
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Arran:
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"You're playing a guessing game about
me, but you're guessing wrong."
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Inix'Inara:
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"You Shriek and Conquer and little
else, Little Raptor. If I did not know better i'd expect you to
Breathe Frost."
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"What else need I do, oh great iguana?"
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Krakken:
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He takes a moment to eye the others,
glancing over his shoulder with slitted eyes. Who can he count on
here, when he gets tired of letting them argue? Empty seems
likely, if only for the chance at murder. But the others? Too much
talk of redemption and chances to be sure.
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Inix'Inara:
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"Look in the Mirror."
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Arran:
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"Enough of this!" Arran sweeps a hand
forward. Nothing happens, it's just a gesture after all "These
barbs aren't getting us anywhere. Let us all show a little
humility here and treat with respect, alright?"
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Arran:
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"We're here for a reason, and that's
to work for the betterment of this place."
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Serge:
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"Krakken. Are there any assurances you
would accept from one of dragonkind? Any you could accept?"
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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Empty Nest Heaven will back Krakken's
play, if that's what it comes to.
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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Long odds, but he's cut apart longer.
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Krakken:
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"Hrrrn. From this one?" he
eyes it sidelong, weighing how much he can really push for here.
he can hardly murder all of the dragons on his own. "To leave.
Forever. Let them go back where they. Came from. All that time
ago." yeah, he said it. "But Her? Hrrnn, there is
only one thing from her I will ever. Accept."
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Inix'Inara:
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"You want me to leave? Back to where I
came from? Hound do you have the slightest conception of where
that was? And where it now resides?"
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"You misunderstand him."
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"He merely doesn't care."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Perhaps. But the others may. I shall
speak then of the Past."
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Krakken:
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He bares his teeth again in a sort of
grin at Empty's words. "But I am sure it will. Tell us. If we let
it."
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Arran:
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"Killing her isn't a very compelling
offer, Krakken. I fear in your anger you'd be willing to hurt many
more just to see her dead. Even if she has done evil things, that
is not justice. That is just vengeance."
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Krakken:
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"Hrrn. I have never claimed.
Otherwise."
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Serge:
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"No, I actually want to know. Where
they came from and why they were driven to a place of such
depreivation. This is hardly the imperial residence of a goddess,
after all."
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Edward:
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"If we cannot make a unanimous
decision.. there is precedent for dissent against the majority.
Should we take the matter to a simple vote?"
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elfDM:
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do't u wanna hear some backstory
before a vote
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Arran:
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"Listen, I understand that you have
suffered, and that I will never really understand what you have
gone through; but just because you have suffered does not mean
everyone else here should so that you can avenge your pain. What
you seek is evil, and it will lead only to ruin. Trust me on this."
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Arran:
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I do. Answer my damn question.
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elfDM:
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had to circle around to it
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Speaker:
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it is a fool of a fool who does not
exhaust the dialogue tree
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Edward:
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edward is just bringing up procedure!!
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Edward:
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we have ways of dealing with
this.we're basically elfgame's supreme court
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Edward:
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except with less stupid ways of
admitting new members
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Serge:
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in full ooc disclosure serge is
actually leaning towards "nope, we probably can't do this and will
have to go another way" but he's gonna keep clinging to that straw
a little bit longer
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Arran:
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elfgame's supreme dolt more like it.
what seal will these BUFFOONS break next!?
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Serge:
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^^
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Inix'Inara:
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"We came from another world. The
Veroon came from the same. It was destroyed by your Sky Tyrants.
Used horribly and then discarded. Banished and Exiled in ways
beyond knowing. In the aftermath, we flung ourselves across the
Emptiness."
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Inix'Inara:
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"One god was left behing. Three Gods
were with us. And when we came to this red planet, one more we
found there."
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Inix'Inara:
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"It was to be war. The Three-
Exhausted from the labors of carrying life between worlds- against
a single Deity, rested since the Great Treachery that had brought
us here. The Strongest of the Gods."
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Arran:
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Fits with some of the 'heretical'
texts.. sort of...
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Inix'Inara:
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"Who had laboured as we fled, on
building here, a new world. Hewn from the stuff os creation,
gathered from the Foundry, spread upon the Bones of the Comos
still slick with blood, and shaped into a world."
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Krakken:
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"Because I have suffered?
Hrrrrnnyes, this is about me. But do you still doubt. Really.
That ridding this world of this....Tyranny would not
benefit the people you have. Seen? Well even if you are not
convinced, I remain willing. To try. If that means breaking
a few. Hrn. Eggs.." he slashes the air again in a
dismissive gesture and turns away as the dragon begins to speak at
length. He mutters something about votes under his breath.
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Inix'Inara:
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"But knowing of our coming, he was
well prepared to face us. Knowing of the Wrath and Malice and even
yes. . .Thirst for Justice that thundered around us as the Gods
carried us fourth."
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Inix'Inara:
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"He was prepared."
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Inix'Inara:
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"But he turned away."
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Inix'Inara:
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"His work unfinished, and now,
undefended, he turned away, and retired to that place beyond death
where only the Seven Dwell."
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Inix'Inara:
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"And the The Gods and their charges
descended onto this place, and built up three nations upon an
impossible shore."
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Serge:
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Serge listens intently. This is a
perspective he hasn't heard before.
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Arran:
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Little glowing glyphs are burning the
Dragon's account into Arran's tome as Inix'Inara speaks. A dubious
source, perhaps, but truth is best illuminated from all angles.
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Inix'Inara:
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"Don't get me wrong, These were hardly
saints- although if the Priest was honest with himself, he would
admit that by far the worst of the Three, was the Righteous God of
Justice, who almost extinguished all life on your world, before a
Better Worhty of Pelor passed their impossible test and laid them
low."
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Serge:
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"...You're not wrong."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Nor was my queen the worst, for the
Prince of Lies, the Tyrant of Hell, went fourth into battle,
forging even onto that world, battling against Bahamut until at
last it was She who was left behind who Pinned His Forked Tounge,
and vanquished him."
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Krakken:
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"Hah. And that was the most righteous
of their kind." he grunts, listening despite himself.
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Arran:
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"Interesting. What twisted his purpose
so? The heretical texts claim it was treachery, just like you- but
what could change a divine essence so.. thoroughly?"
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Edward:
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"Who was the one god who turned away?"
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Arran:
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"Before he was Bhannoth he was
Bahamut, Krakken. Something happened."
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elfDM:
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There are many tales that sugest Kord
half built a world and then went on strike. You've heard version
fo that here, as well.
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Crion is disconnected.
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Serge:
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"I believe she is telling us what
happened. The line between justice and vengeance is terribly thin."
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Arran:
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"It is. That is why it is tempered
always by other virtues, foremost of them being humility and
temperance."
|
Crion has connected.
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Edward:
|
hrm, well that makes sense that this
would be kordworld
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"What happened was Pride. Bahamut was
too proud to admit what must be done to preserve life. In his
crusade he created machinations that bent his nature at impossible
angles. He became Bhannoth and the three gods of this world became
the Three- the Infernal Deities of yours."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"The Golden dragons who once served as
his Envoys became the radiant spirits that Perched on the
shoulders of Pelor's seven chosen. Another name he took."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"And of course, here on this world,
for all his posturing, his nation, the Metalics proved every bit
the opressors as we. . .in their own ways. The Hound is Tribute to
that."
|
|
Arran:
|
"What happened to his radiant
servitors upon his death?"
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"They were still here. I smell one of
them near the city. . near the gate? Is it Borkadd? Do you even
know the name of the one who sat upon your shoulder all those
years? Or the other who joined them when Fair Giselle bequeathed
her Pelor Borne power to you to challenge Devar?" (these are npc
events from a hile back but i think brennon was there for them)
|
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Edward:
|
i also remember them
|
|
Arran:
|
"I do not."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"All this twisted and turned and for
what? The Metallics have no Veroon amongst their ranks."
|
|
Arran:
|
"We know of the Metallics, we still
hear filtered reports of the Bronze.. and some tales of Gold
still, which is why I asked."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"They dwell here, and in the infernal
lands, where this place is Truly Hell, and they live what lives
they do because of US. Because of My breath, Her gift to Me."
|
|
Arran:
|
"Why do you call it a gift?"
|
|
Arran:
|
"It seems like a burden if anything."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"The Hound knows much of them. I'm
sure he would disbuse you of any notions of their nobility."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"She is generous. Her whim, which you
dismiss, is no different in Substance, to your Ethics."
|
|
Arran:
|
"Morals."
|
|
Arran:
|
"Not ethics."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Morality in Practice is Ethics. And
even the Hound and the Raptor must be pragmatic at times."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"I am insanely pragmatic."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Morality are the pretty words behind
the actions. Her actions do not carry the right Mortal Timbre, but
what are the results?"
|
|
Arran:
|
"Pragmatism is not a sin, it is the
seeking of concrete solutions- it is just a symptom of
circumstance."
|
|
Arran:
|
"But that is for a sermon, not here."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"You talk of righteouenss, she speaks
of her whim. What are the results? The same."
|
|
Arran:
|
"What are the results,
that is a very good question. We see monstrosity, depravity, the
hosting of demons and abberations here."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"No. No Demons."
|
|
Arran:
|
"I saw the Slaad in the gambling
parlour."
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elfDM:
|
the sladd aren't abyssalt
|
elfDM:
|
they're chaotic elementals
|
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Arran:
|
well they are in the monster manual!!!!
|
elfDM:
|
they're ver dangerous and powerful but
they're not actually abyssal
|
elfDM:
|
are they? are you sure?
|
elfDM:
|
they should be in limbo, they're
mainline CN
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elfDM:
|
might haveta check that later
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elfDM:
|
anywy they're no abyssla i elfgame
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elfDM:
|
shoudaread the lefgame MM
|
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Arran:
|
alright
|
|
Arran:
|
then disregard the demon comment
|
|
Serge:
|
"There is... some of this which agrees
with what I have seen and heard myself."
|
|
Arran:
|
"You're taking Tiamat's order here as
the best one possible, I'd ask how you're so sure of that
yourself?"
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"The results are what matters. The
metalics will talk endlessly of their Virtue and Process, but . .
. .where are their Veroon? My father was quite fure they carried
lesser races with them as they descended to the world, as did we.
. "
|
|
Arran:
|
"If I find one, I will ask them. Ever
I seek the truth, for there can be no justice without it."
|
|
Serge:
|
"Some of them were taken by the Sky
Tyrants. So spoke Bhannoth."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
". . and yet now there are none. The
Metalics don't need .. . fodder. Green plants, smaller creatures
to devour. They and their Draconian Legions drink of elemental
power- much as we do. With no Veroon, their crusades are that much
more effective."
|
|
Serge:
|
"But. The point, then, is that there
is no 'away' for your kind to go to."
|
|
Krakken:
|
brb
|
|
Serge:
|
"Your home is gone, destroyed."
|
|
Edward:
|
"So."
|
|
Arran:
|
"A cruel lot, but not an excuse."
|
|
Edward:
|
"This is all that is left."
|
|
Serge:
|
"We are both enemies of the Sky
Tyrants, but I am not certain we can be friends."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"I could return to that place. But you
don't want me to. You've seen what becomes of what dwells there,
Serge Marchand. You saw it deep beneath the Isles of the Dead."
|
|
Serge:
|
"..True."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"When this place was left incomplete,
it did indeed lack for life."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Never did Melora come to this placs,
to spread her green and blue cloak across it."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Never even did Moradin, hammer out
the continents into strong shields above the molten mantle, or
forge bands of lightning to wrap around the sky and keep burning
light from the heavens out."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Instead this place was a wasteland.
For elemental creatures, and supernal entities, not unliveable."
|
|
Arran:
|
"So this is just a glorified rock
drifting in the astral sea?"
|
|
Serge:
|
"Kord's blood and bones."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Not the Astra sea, no. And not Kord's
Bones, no."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"But I digress."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
Braggartry.
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"For those purely of flesh? This place
was like a mountain of salt."
|
|
Serge:
|
Serge's moment of poetry shot down.
Alas.
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"Salt seasons the meal."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"You've eaten well."
|
|
Edward:
|
edward, a living avatar of salt
|
|
Arran:
|
"The works of creation are not beyond
the product of it. Did you or your tyrant Queen ever attempt to
recreate what Melora and Moradin can do?"
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"I can tell you any number of lies
about why she did it. Or I can tell you the truth as she spoke it;
that driven to deprivation she found the Idea of Scarcity
offensive, and saw in the Veroon, a folly, a fancy, a trinket, a
treasure, precious from its rarity and fragility, and worth
preserving for that reason. Serge knows how tightly nobles can
cling to their baubles even in hard times."
|
|
Arran:
|
"A reason, as twisted as it is."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"Hypocrisy."
|
|
Serge:
|
"Hah. You have me there. They're
loading the sculptures on the wagons out of Lark's Landing as we
speak."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"She cannot do what they do. Nor could
they, without a proper vessle! You do not understand me. When I
speak of Bones and Blood. The kernel of life within must be
treated with the upmost care. . and here it is simply absent.
Scoured from this place before it began. . with good cause."
|
Crion is disconnected.
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"But whatever her reason, behold the
results: The Veroon live."
|
Crion has connected.
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"But whatever her reason, behold the
results: The Veroon live."
|
|
Arran:
|
"They do, but the nobility of such an
act was an accident, as you said."
|
|
Arran:
|
"Which is why I question her order,
why I "insult" her."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Nobility is an ilusion. Words. Like
the metalics. Oh if you could listen to them talk. You would be
glad another thousand times over for the death of your God."
|
|
Arran:
|
"My god is an idea, and it has never
died."
|
|
Arran:
|
"Devar realized such a truth, far
beyond the understanding you bear of the flow of the divine."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"My god is a promise, and it dies even
now."
|
|
Serge:
|
"They live, but... caged, deprived...
like so many fighting dogs."
|
|
Arran:
|
"But I understand you better now."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Your god was a mad crusader. Perhaps
the New Son has solved the paradox that broke their predecessor. .
. or perhaps not. I suspect he is wathcing you even now, Righteous
One."
|
|
Arran:
|
"As always is the result of sharing
perspectives."
|
|
Arran:
|
"I should hope he is."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"The results are what matter. You
create a web of words to raise up some actions and cast down
others. But in truth, Power and Matter are all that matter."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"But despite our differences,
creature, I assure you we don't give a single damnation for all
these tears about what the Metallics have gotten away with."
|
|
Arran:
|
"We serve the same ideal, but his is
the greater strength."
|
|
Arran:
|
"The greater... conviction."
|
elfDM:
|
(devar's godhood is actuall yin line
with what rran is saying, since he rejected the perfect hirachy
that drove bhannoth to impossible tasks)
|
|
Arran:
|
"In a brute understanding yes, power
is the final decider- but such destruction it does bring. Such
misery.. such suffering."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"If such a grant convicion exists,
then it must surely addres the lives of these creatures. There is
no further miracle they can hope for. This is their miracle."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"And upon this blasted rock, no
greater miracle can there be. I know the nature of this world. I
breathe upon matter, and it becomes the thing of life. Creature so
miniscule they- well they are to you what you are to me, but
unlike you, they're rather imoportant- they are my subjects.
Without them all life is stillborn."
|
|
Arran:
|
"Well yes, what was originally a
mission on other terms to the hells has shifted in many ways for
myself at least. My actions speak for me here."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Ruling them,Breathing them, has given
me insight into the origins of this place. The Life the Gods
embraced. . and the life they feared."
|
|
Arran:
|
Arran laughs to himself. "Pride is so
insidious, it demands its presence be known to provide any
comfort..."
|
|
Serge:
|
"And yet, Arran was able to bring them
hope. A new idea. Kindness and ciarity, more than just plain
survival-"
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"It is not pride that places me where
I am."
|
|
Arran:
|
"I have done more for them than you
ever have, Inix'Inara. I say this not as a measure of Pride, but
one of progress."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"You think you have aided them? Why do
you think geneosity is a sin in the eyes of the Godess."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"In this of all places?"
|
|
Arran:
|
"Why do you accept that it is, because
you live in a tortured land of your own making?"
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Consider. What do you say, when
somebody gives you something? One of two things i'd warrant. But,
speak. What would you say?"
|
|
Arran:
|
"I'm not here for demonstrations,
speak plainly."
|
|
Speaker:
|
no town more barren than this town
|
|
Serge:
|
"Thank you?"
|
|
Speaker:
|
no haven safer than the one they
tore down
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Likely you would say, 'I am grateful'
or. . 'i am in your debt'."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"No."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"I say: What is the cost?"
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Exactly. For there is always a cost."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"And when one says they are grateful.
. they are speaking of it."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"There is always a debt."
|
|
Arran:
|
"Hmm, such a simplistic view..."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"For such creatures as you. For the
Veroon. You are. . herd animals. . . pack animals at best."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"The godess Gives. But she knows that
only a god can give. For any other creature, giving. . comes with
strings attached."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"And the debt always comes due."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"And you, who incessantly speak of
your brethren, fretting and scheming, you are lions?"
|
|
Arran:
|
"You're tricking yourself into wisdom
with crass simplicities here, Inix'Inar."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"We are not lions. We are dragons."
|
|
Arran:
|
"Debt in the way you speak of is not
some metaphysical truth, it is.. an agreement at best."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"You are fools."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"We are wise enough- not to give and
play at generosity. For that is folly. We take. We posess."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Consider this. A veroon gives another
Veroon half their meal."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"You cling, you covet, you bitch and
you fall."
|
VoidTek is disconnected.
|
Arran:
|
"The Dragons are smart, Empty.. just..
clouded so thoroughly by Pride that it twists their own reason
into knots to protect that pride. The dark void that dwells in
their heart and consumes."
|
VoidTek has connected.
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"A week later, the first is starving.
What does the second do?"
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"What do they do?"
|
|
Arran:
|
"It is why we often consider Pride the
foremost of all sins. Look at what it can do even to some of the
most cunning and powerful creatures."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"What have you compelled him to do?"
|
|
Serge:
|
"He can either repay, or he won't."
|
|
Arran:
|
"Yes, the right question.
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"And if he does not? What does the
First do? Seek Justice?"
|
|
Serge:
|
"But you have removed that. He can
only do one thing."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Die quietly?"
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"What is done when the debt cannot be
repaid?"
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"What are his incentives?"
|
|
Arran:
|
"Well, what do you do? Hoard? Kill?
Maim? Brutalize?"
|
|
Serge:
|
"Among we... herd animals, not every
exchange incurs a debt. When it is freely asked and given. Bonds
of coin and contract are not the only bonds we acknowledge."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"You speak of problems as if you read
about them in a book."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"No. That is what mortals do, when
caught in chains of debt and obligation."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"They steal, they murder, they wage
war."
|
|
Arran:
|
"We're not herd animals, Serge. Do not
debase yourself so."
|
|
Serge:
|
"I speak only in the most ironic
sense, Arran."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"You are Wrong, Serge. Your entire
class is based on the obligations of others."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"You, in this profligate chamber,
presume to talk frankly of the wages of debt."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Here is what I have done. I have
compelled him to eat his own rations. And in doing to, we cut off
that chin of tragedy before it begins."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"We free them of the impossible burden
of supporting their brother in a Famine."
|
|
Arran:
|
"You have deprived them of the ability
to grow, something I have given them."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Grow? They reporoduce. Some of them
even reach as old as twenty."
|
|
Serge:
|
:Because there is no famine. But also
no bounty. Never enough."
|
|
Arran:
|
"In pursuit of destroying all hardship
you have destroyed their spirit, in seeking to protect your order
and your pride you have hurt them."
|
|
Arran:
|
"That is evil."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Our order? Or their food source?
You're the ones who want me to leave."
|
|
Serge:
|
"I think I must revise my initial
assumptions."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"What did you compell the starving
creature to do?"
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"You compelled the one with gratitude
to only eat what he was given."
|
|
Arran:
|
"I want you to examine yourself, and
to banish the Pride that so clouds your heart. You're afraid to
admit anything you've done could ever be wrong because you
yourselves were wronged by the cosmic order."
|
VoidTek:
|
"I want. You to die. I
will accept exile." he interjects, just to show that he's
still there.
|
|
Arran:
|
"That is what I want."
|
|
Serge:
|
"You… are not providing the people
here with life. You are merely stretching out their death to
eternity."
|
|
Krakken:
|
sort of
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"How did you condemn the dead?"
|
|
Serge:
|
"I don't think we can make a deal
here. Not now."
|
|
Arran:
|
"I want you to try something
different. To walk the path of redemption. I rarely make this
offer."
|
|
Edward:
|
"I would recommend you accept this
opportunity, Inix'Inara."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"I wish the priestess was here. She
understands the cycle better, I think."
|
|
Arran:
|
"She understands it as much as I do."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Are all these words and trappings
truly so important to you? Enough for these people to starve?"
|
|
Arran:
|
"The words are not important, and I
know you know that. It is the ideas, the deeds, and the better
future that can exist for them."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"Can you imagine them eating without
you?"
|
|
Arran:
|
"-can you imagine that without feeling
hurt? Without feeling usurped?"
|
|
Serge:
|
"They already starve. They know they
need more than what your kind has provided them with. Or was the
attack on your cowardly brother's halls also part of the plan?"
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
There is a satisfaction to asking the
questions, even when they don't get answers.
|
|
Arran:
|
brb rq
|
|
Serge:
|
"If there is another way to provide
for them, we will find it."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"I never claimed the system was
perfect. I am not my brother's keeper. He is fled from his place.
But if you banish me likewise, you shall lose, the only chance you
have of feeding these wreched creatures, unless you cripple
yourselves in the attempt. Remember why you came here. A war in on
your doorstep!"
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"What does it cost you to leave me to
my work? Are words so important to you, compared to deeds?"
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"I love deeds."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"I haven't seen you do one yet."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"But you do have words."
|
|
Serge:
|
"If the words weren't important to us,
we would just roll over and let the Realm wash over us like the
tide."
|
|
Arran:
|
back
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Every living creature not of
Elemental or Supernal nature, living in this city, is my legacy."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"Then so is every dead."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"That is what I have done. You cannot
say the same."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"No, I did not bring us to this place.
I did not create the cosmos as it is."
|
|
Serge:
|
"They're your baubles. Just as they
are your Queen's."
|
|
Arran:
|
"We cannot leave you to your work. If
we could we would not have come here."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"So you would prefer for the Veroon to
starve."
|
|
Arran:
|
"Are you considering my offer?"
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"Perhaps you should adjust your
thinking to account for the possibility that we do not care about
the Veroon."
|
|
Arran:
|
"My goal is not their starvation, but
you threaten us with it. Turn from evil, and the solution to all
this will become very apparent."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"I do not."
|
|
Serge:
|
"I care. But… better that than to live
in bondage for all time. But I reject that those are our only
options."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Talk is cheap, Priest. But your
demands of fealty are still to expensive for me. I shall not
grovel to the Young God. And if he approves of the famine you
flirt with then he is no better than the one who came before him."
|
|
Krakken:
|
"Hrn. They will find a way. And it
will not involve you." he spreads out his hands, holding them
palms upward. "As I see it. One way or the other. Your time here
is. Over. The only choice is how."
|
|
Inix'Inara:
|
"Who spoke of Bondage? The city if
yours."
|
|
Arran:
|
"Fealty? If I have made them as such,
then I have miscommunicated my goals."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"What if we made a deal."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"Here are the contents of the deal."
|
|
Arran:
|
"I am hesitant to burden Devar with
the concerns I should bear upon my own, but perhaps I will consult
him on your fate."
|
|
Serge:
|
"The city isn't ours if you control
the matter. If you hold the literal power of life and death-"
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"You remain in power. You remain able
to do what you wish, when you wish, as you wish, how you wish. We
do not constrain you in anyway. You support us as we are able."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"But."
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"Should we ever come back here --
should we ever have to talk like this again --"
|
|
Edward:
|
Edward's nodding with this.
|
|
Empty Nest Heaven:
|
"Our next conversation will not be a
conversation."
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Krakken:
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Krakken bristles at the suggestion,
breathing slow and deep.
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Inix'Inara:
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"I'm all for fewer words. But the
Hound dissents."
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"You're a functionary and your
cooperation is preferable, not necessary."
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Edward:
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"He can live with that, as I have when
I have been over-ruled."
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Arran:
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Arran spends a moment in
contemplation. "He is not the only. Your death would be a tragedy
for the suffering it would cause, but to allow such evil to fester
here only invites disaster.. I will admit, you have me at a loss
in some ways Inix'Inara."
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Serge:
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"I have nothing more to say."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Can he live with it? Vengeance
forestalled? What if I offered him. . compensation?"
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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Then he would be a fool to accept the
gift of a dragon, Empty doesn't say.
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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He is sympathetic with Krakken's wants
to a fault. He would prefer to kill this thing.
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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But that does not seem to be the mood
of the room, nor does it seem to be, philosophically, the wisest
course.
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Inix'Inara:
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"Every gift has a price, as we have
said. I do not deny there is a treachery in what I would offer
but- it is a betrayal he has already embraced. Destruction is what
I offer, and greater shall be his burden as a result."
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Krakken:
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"Even if it were to." he rumbles,
giving Empty a wary eye. "Agree with your offer. I
could not. No, it knows that much." he sneers as he turns
back to the dragon "And it should also know what I
think of it's offers."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Are you sure? It would help you kill
dragons. . ."
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"If you wish to give Krakken a gift,
dragon, you would cut out your tongue, and let the creatures of
this city talk in your silence."
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"But you don't wish to give him a
gift."
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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"You wish to make him a loan."
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Inix'Inara:
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"You would prefer the Devil speak?"
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Arran:
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"I had not realized how deep the
thirst of vengeance had burrowed into the hearts of those I am
traveling with. This has been enlightening in more ways than one."
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Edward:
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im getting pretty sleepy
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Edward:
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sorry
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Edward:
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its been an irl long day
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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not me, i can be a smug contrarian
dipshit forever
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Krakken:
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"I have already been given. All the help
your kind are capable of. Offering." he thumps his chest again.
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Arran:
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"Perhaps it is I who should have been
offering you help."
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Inix'Inara:
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"I do nto deny this as I have said. .
but the cost is one he has already proven willing ot pay. And no,
Krakken, you can be helped more. . in that very way. ."
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elfDM:
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we;re almost done tom
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Krakken:
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"Hah. Cleric, I have never tried to
hide what is in my. Heart. That is my truth."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Most of our Kind posess what is known
by your people, as the Draconus Fundmentum."
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Inix'Inara:
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"The Draconians, a lesser version. The
Draconus Minimum."
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Inix'Inara:
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"What the Krakken posesses, is best
described as Draconus Internecinum."
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Arran:
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"It is a weak and destructive one,
there will be no satisfaction found on your path."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Destructive Yes, Weak, no. But
indeed, destruction may not be his only path."
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Edward:
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Edward, having no ground to stand on
whatsoever in judging the Draconian, remains silent.
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Inix'Inara:
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"He wants to destroy dragons. You want
to save the Veroon."
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Inix'Inara:
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"I know the powr of our people. And we
share the Corrosive Aspect. I could teach you, Krakken. Do better
destroy or. . .to do what I do in this place."
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Inix'Inara:
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"I know the powr of our people. And we
share the Corrosive Aspect. I could teach you, Krakken. To better
destroy or. . .to do what I do in this place."
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Inix'Inara:
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"The Breath of Life."
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Arran:
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"I want to save who and what I can,
and to pursue the ideal which I follow."
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Inix'Inara:
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"You resent me, as I am indispensable.
I think we all know that I shall accept the Raptors offer, and
dwell here as long as I am able."
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Inix'Inara:
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"But."
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Inix'Inara:
|
"Should the krakken accept my offer. .
"
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Inix'Inara:
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"He can one day replace me."
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Inix'Inara:
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"Or simply. . devour himself and his
foes at even more alarming pace."
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Inix'Inara:
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"The choice would be his. . should he
accept my tutelage."
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Arran:
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"What game are you playing here?"
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elfDM:
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(we could cliffhanger here or krkken
could make the call here? might be good to wait)
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Serge:
|
this seems like a good cliffhang to me
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Inix'Inara:
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"No game. I am a dragon of the
Deathbringer breath. But I also bring life."
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Edward:
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yeah cliffhangers good
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Inix'Inara:
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"The krakken despises me. . but if he
agrees to learn from me. . "
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Inix'Inara:
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"He can then bring death to this foes.
. and life to this place in my place!"
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Inix'Inara:
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"So what say you, Hound?"
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TO BE CONTINUED
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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gg
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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cbass leave the server up for a sec
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elfDM:
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THANKS FOR PLAYING EVERYONE
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cbass:
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I frickin hate dragons
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Empty Nest Heaven:
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i'm gonna change empty's token pics
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cbass:
|
also absolutely crion
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Edward:
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thanks for running helf
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Krakken:
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"Yes." he looks Arran in the eye, but
doesn't hold the stare for long before looking away."I know." he
says, in that dead serious way that he has. He turns back to the
dragon, baring his teeth once more. And
answers.............................
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Krakken:
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(NEXT TIME ON DRAGON WORLD Z)
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cbass:
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let me know when you're done, I'll
upload this file as 2A
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elfDM:
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NEXT WEEK: KRAKKEN A DIFFERENCE
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Arran:
|
tfw party's paladin. devar had his
work cut out for him
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elfDM:
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yeah but that was before krakken and
empty
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elfDM:
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atho they did have wil. .
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Krakken:
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Chaotic Neutral b*tch
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cbass:
|
but yeah serge was ready to walk in
and figure out what everyone's price is and now he's just utterly
disgusted
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cbass:
|
that seems to be the general theme here
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Arran:
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TFW you're in hell and are working
with monsters but the templars are just right over there ---> in
theory
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Crion is disconnected.
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Krakken:
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i feel like i should already know the
answer krakken would give but you gave him just enough to make me
doubt it so gg
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Crion has connected.
elfDM:
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also plz ntoe her offer is legit
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elfDM:
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and the krakken can like, tell that
and stuff cause he is in Acid Breath Crew
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Krakken:
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"Unlimited Powerr" -Emperor Palpatine
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Krakken:
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okay im done thank you everybody
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Crion is disconnected.
VoidTek is disconnected.
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Arran:
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Farewell.
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brennon is disconnected.
Crion has connected.